Dental Material Woes

It’s been six months since my dental revision done in Mexico by Dr. Lagos. I am certainly glad to have three infected teeth gone. But my bite is still off. This is due to my body’s lack of structural alignment – my right and left muscles are out of balance. But other issues I have are dental-related: I have a two tooth-space on my lower left, which used to be covered by a partial but is now uncovered and free, thanks to #18’s root exposure, and I wear two partials on the top – one for the left side and one for the right. They substitute for the missing #3 and #14. Partials are not the funnest when you’re chewing. But implants do not appeal to me.

The reason for this post is a bit of frustration due to not being clear on what materials to use for a permanent crown over tooth #30. This is a tooth that Dr. Lagos covered with a temporary crown, that he said would need a permanent in six months. Just like clockwork, the temp fell out last week, and unfortunately, got swallowed. Oh well, these things happen.

Dr. Lagos said that he would use Diamondcrown for the permanent crown. My local, somewhat holistic dentist said that Diamondcrown is not durable and could crack or come off in a year. Maybe less if I don’t grind my teeth at night, which I don’t. Diamondcrown showed up as ‘Least Reactive’ on my BioComp testing (see below).

So I called Leo Cashman, tireless dental health crusader of DAMS  – Dental Amalgam Mercury Solutions. Over the years Leo has been very generous with his time when I’ve called him. DAMS has a newsletter you can subscribe to for $25, highly recommended (email him at dams@usfamily.net). Leo agrees with Clifford Consulting and Research, who believe that alumina in dental materials is not reactive. From Clifford:

Dental products are not the only ones where we find the benign forms of aluminum. The glass jars which contain our foods and beverages on the grocer’s shelf are basically barium-boro-aluminosilicates. Sand on the seashore is a rich mix of aluminum oxide and various aluminosilicates. Glass utensils, dishes and vessels in the kitchen (ie., Pyrex, Kimax, Corningware, Stoneware, Anchor-Hocking) are similar aluminosilicates and aluminum oxides. In our bodies, by nature, the bones are comprised of 2.0% – 2.5% aluminosilicate, aluminum oxide or alumina. If the patient can safely have food or beverage stored in glass, or can safely eat food prepared in a Pyrex pan or bowl, or can safely walk on sand, then it becomes immediately obvious that these forms of aluminum are not a threat to good health. The aluminunosilicate / aluminum oxide content of the bones is supplied and replenished daily from the fruits, grains and vegetables of the diet. The aluminosilicate content of lettuces and other vegetables in a single fresh garden salad serving will easily exceed the total quantity of aluminum released in ionized form from a mouthful of porcelain or ceramic crowns over a period of years.

In 2008 I had the Clifford’s blood test done, and it listed the Aluminum Group as ‘Reactive.’

Clifford Biocompatibility Test Results

Clifford Biocompatibility Test Results

 

In 2012 I had the BioComp blood test done, and it too listed Aluminum as ‘Highly Reactive.’

Biocomp Compatibility Test Results for Metallic Components

Biocomp Compatibility Test Results for Metallic Components

 

So when I went to Dr. Lagos, removing porcelain crowns (porcelain contains aluminum) was part of the dental revision. Dr. Lagos, as well as Dr. Huggins both use BioComp for their biocompatibility testing for dental materials.

Recently I came across the work of Carol Vander Stoep. She is a dental hygenist with thirty years of experience and author of Mouth Matters. She was kind enough to answer my emails:

Hi Carol,

I am trying to find a good material to use for a crown. My BioComp report said no aluminum – that I tested as highly reactive to E-Max. Yet Leo Cashman from DAMS tells me on the phone that that’s the one that is working best for people in terms of reactivity, and that the biocompatibility test may not be all that we hope.

Do you know where I can go online to read about what material to ask my dentist to use?

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Hi Amanda,

That question is a biggie. This article should give you a starting point:

Is There Really Such a Thing as “Metal-Free Dentistry”? | Know Thy Health

Mercola’s interview with me I felt was the starting point of opening a can of worms on materials used in dentistry. It is always a matter of choosing the least toxic for each person… hard to do! One of the reasons I want change in the ways we diagnose at an early age. More accurate, etc.

Best,

Carol Vander Stoep, RDH, BSDH, OMT
www.mouthmattersbook.com

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Carol,

Yes it seems like a biggie. People disagree. Years ago I did a Clifford test. It showed the Aluminum Group as reactive, and Silicates Group as nonreactive. Last year I did the BioComp, which showed Aluminum as highly reactive, but made no mention of Silicates.

My doctor in Mexico, Dr. Lagos, says to use a Diamondcrown material for the crown I need.

My local, somewhat holistic dentist in Va. Beach says Diamondcrown is not durable.

Leo Cashman from DAMS says he wouldn’t use Diamondcrown either, because it’s not durable. He would use E-Max. E-Max showed up as highly reactive for me in the BioComp report.

Dr. Cook’s lab (dentistryhealth.com) said he wouldn’t use E-Max because they don’t test well energetically!

I guess my best bet is finding an EAV person who has the dental material software to test my energy with them?

What do you do in this situation?

And yes, I’d seen that article before, but it was good to read again! Who is right – Clifford (alumina is fine) or BioComp (most people react to alumina)?

 

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And so here I remain – researching, talking, reading, about what to do next. If any of you have some experience to share on this matter, I would love to hear about it.

PS: Check back in a couple of months, when I do my expose on Oil Pulling for gum problems and oral (and possibly systemic) health!

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17 Responses to Dental Material Woes

  1. Karen says:

    Hi, Amanda,

    Sorry, I don’t have info about materials, I’m not that far along in the process yet. I have Lyme disease and have been thinking about getting 3 root canals removed. I’m wondering how you feel, overall, about Dr. Lagos and that whole experience. Would you recommend him?

    I just saw an oral surgeon in California. He took an i-cat scan of my mouth and zoomed in on the root canals and said they were all infected to various degrees. (He doesn’t even need the scan to determine this because his belief is that all root canals are infected.) So my options are to go with this oral surgeon or find someone outside of the country. I guess there’s a guy in Texas who’s well-known for this kind of work, but that would be very expensive for me.

    My other question is have you noticed a significant change in your health since getting your infected teeth removed? Two of my root canal teeth are next to each other and they’ll leave a big space when taken out. I won’t be able to have a bridge made because there won’t be enough teeth left to anchor it to. So this is a huge decision for me. I don’t want an implant but will probably have to get at least one in order to keep my bite somewhat in order.

    Thanks in advance for any feedback you can give me. If I end up needing crowns after the surgery, I’m sure I’ll get more into the materials issues.

    Karen

    • Amanda says:

      Hi Karen,

      What are you doing for the Lyme? I recommend the Salt/C Plus Protocol, if you’ve not tried it yet. I also think that getting root canals removed is a great idea, especially if you have chronic health issues. I really do recommend Dr. Lagos. I like him a lot. It’s been six months but I still email his office when I have questions. I’ve even sent pictures of a tooth that I have questions about, and he or Tanya always reply. Recently they suggested oil pulling to remove/prevent infection, and I think that would be a great thing for you to do. Twice a day, 20 minutes each time, coconut or sesame oil. I am partial to the latter because the original oil pulling proponents direct us to use it – that or sunflower oil. But coconut oil swishing has a great track record too.

      I hear your quandary with the two missing teeth thing. I have that same issue, bottom left. Thankfully you can’t see it unless I laugh with a big open mouth, which I don’t do anymore! But I’m not wearing the partial that was covering it there. At some point I will decide what to do in that area. You could probably get a partial there, I would think.

      My thoughts would be to send a pano to Dr. Lagos and to anyone else you’d like, and ask them for an estimate for a dental revision that includes those three root canal removals. Dr. Lagos could answer questions after you look at the estimate.

      Please let us know what you do and how it goes!

      • Karen says:

        Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it. I’m actually on Salt/C, too, (3) grams of C and (3) 1/4 teaspoons of salt per day so far. I’m also doing ozone insufflations and using a whole body bag for ozone (kind of like the sauna tent without the steam). It’s always good to hear when people do well on Salt/C because I have so many doubts about taking that much salt. I’m doing it on faith!

        I’ve been oil pulling for around 4 months now and I would never stop, my mouth feels so much healthier. I’ve been telling everyone I know about it.

        Thanks for the info about Dr. Lagos. I’m still undecided about where to get the surgery done but this will help. They won’t be able to put a partial in my “space” because there’s nothing to attach it to (no other teeth), so I think I’ll be getting one zirconia implant for both missing teeth. Don’t want to do that, but don’t want to throw my bite off any more than it already is.

        It’s been helpful reading through your blog. Thank you! Good luck to you.

        • Amanda says:

          Yes I have seen improvements with salt/c. Right now I may be going through the six month herx they talk about. Great you oil pull! I will be interested in knowing whether you get the root canal teeth taken out or not. If you do the implant for the space, that sounds like a plan to me! Spaces aren’t the funnest! Keep us posted about the salt/c too. I am doing 10 and 10 right now. Wish I had the ozone generator like you do! Maybe one day…Thanks for writing.

  2. Andy says:

    Hey Amanda,

    I have cfs and suspected mold illness and mercury toxicity. Im trying to find the best materials to replace my amalgam fillings with and cant decide between composite or ceramic. I know most of the composite materials contain bpa in some form even if they say they dont. And ceramics might contain aluminum and fluoride. I also might have an infection beneath my crown root canaled molar.

    Which filling material have you found to be the least toxic? I called many dentist and sked them if they used bpa free composite material and they tellme yes, but when i look at the manufacturers msds they list bis gma, tegdma, udma or other bpa derivatives.

    • Amanda says:

      Hi Andy,

      The latest news with my teeth situation is that I see an IAOMT dentist who I know does very good work, though he is super expensive. Two crowns with core buildups are costing me $3000, and dental insurance paid $800 of that. I know it’s crazy. I put it on a credit card. He wanted me to do the Clifford test, so we did that and worked with the materials that showed up as safe for me. This was the second time I had done a Cliffords test – the last time being more than 7 years ago so it was time to do another one as the body changes. (I’d also done the BioComp test before my trip to Mexico to have Dr. Lagos do my dental revision.) Interestingly, the second test found that materials that were unsuitable for me were much the same as the first test.

      He built the cores using composite resin and glass ionic. The crowns were zirconia. All of this I tested well for. Have you done a Cliffords test?

      Also, since you mention cfs/mold/mercury, I am a week into chlorine dioxide, or CD, as per Kerri Rivera’s protocol for healing kids with autism. 150 autistic kids are recovered. One word: parasites. Check it out.

  3. Kevin says:

    Hi Amanda,
    Nice blog. I’m trying to find out how to get over my composite filling sensitivity forever. Do you think the blood tests are worth it? I called Dr. Cook office from the book, Rescued by My Dentist and he mentioned only two materials that are safe? Your opinion would be nice. I’m doing the Wilson Nutritional balancing for 6months no better. I’m only doing some of the supplements because of money. It’s rough being sick and not being rich! I have so many health issues.
    Take care,
    Kevin

    • Amanda says:

      Hi Kevin,

      I hear you! It will get better. I’ve learned not to sweat stuff so much, especially because we’re doing the best we can. We have to sense into our innate wisdom, make our best choices, and let go of the rest, you know? Of course I didn’t used to be so zen!

      I think that doctors and others have such differing opinions on so much. Do I know if the materials placed in my mouth were the best ones? No, but I tried my best by getting the Clifford and the other biocompatibility testing, so that’s what I could do. Do whatever makes sense to you after research.

      I can’t remember what I finally used. I’d have to go back and check. You can search for ‘material’ or ‘filling’ on my blog.

      I did Dr. Wilson’s protocol for 2.5 years and had better energy but my thyroid was still bubbye. Now I take T3 and can recommend it!

      My thoughts and good energy are with you Kevin!

      • Kevin Brubaker says:

        Hi Amanda,
        Thank you so much for the kind words. I was told use the material Dr. Douglas Cook mentions in his book, “Rescued by My Dentist”. Do you read it? I didn’t yet but I’m going to get it! Sometimes it feels like you’re in HELL! Did you ever have panic and fears?
        Thanks!
        Kevin

        • Amanda says:

          Hi Kevin,

          I have heard of it but haven’t read it yet. Regarding panic and fears, I think we all get those to varying degrees. You know what helps so much, and yet is so simple? Just sit in a chair, close your eyes, and breathe for a minute or so, feeling the breath come in and out. That’s it. A couple times a day. It is very grounding. Panic subsides for sure!

  4. Kevin Brubaker says:

    Hi Amanda,
    I will try! It’s so nice of you to care about people. Sometimes I feel I can’t make it with so panic and fear. My support person is moving across the country and I’m falling apart!!! Do you know anything jawbone cavitations?
    Thanks!!!

    • Amanda says:

      Yes. I’ve had two cavitation surgeries. I liked both dentists. I can send you their info if you’d like. You’ll be okay! Just take the next best step. And a deep breath!

      • Kevin says:

        Hi Amanda,
        Thanks again! I’m in Pennsylvania. Where are you? Do you think you can heal cavitations without surgery? I Dr. Wilson says the near infrared lamp can in time. Don’t know what to think. I have been to so many dentists it’s crazy! You seem really nice.
        Kevin

        • Amanda says:

          Hi Kevin. I am nice! And you seem nice too. I’m on the East Coast. I think there’s a possibility that the lamp could kill the infection but I’d do a before and after cavitat, if that’s what they still call it. I had one done a year ago so I know it still exists, or at least the technology does. That way you can see if there’s progress being made.

  5. Kevin says:

    Thanks!!! I’m nice too lol. You have knowledge too! Where did you go for your cavitat? I had 3D cone beam taken. Is that good enough? Where is the two cavitation dentists if I need them? Hope you had a nice 4TH!

  6. Jon says:

    Hello Amanda:
    I was doing some research on obtaining a dental biocompatibility test from either Clifford or BioComp. I appreciated your posting your results from both labs. Why is there a discrepancy between the results from the two labs as follows?

    BioComp – Highly Reactive vs Clifford Nonreactive Components
    1. Copper
    2. Lithium
    3. Zirconium
    4. Bismuth
    5. Molybdenum

    BioComp – Least Reactive vs Clifford Reactive Components
    1. Thalium
    2. Tungsten
    3. Palladium

    Also, Clifford tests for more chemicals. Why choose BioComp?

    Thanks

    • Amanda says:

      Thanks Jon. I think the two companies have irreconcilable differences, though I believe on the whole the two agree with each other. I would call both and see what they say!

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